Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Since people flag without any reason valid options the whole question is now obsolete

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Since people flag without any reason valid options the whole question is now obsolete

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Since people flag without any reason valid options the whole question is now obsolete

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Since people flag without any reason valid options the whole question is now obsolete

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

Personal opinion. And can you tell me why you are constantly unflagging it?

Monika
Monika
@monikav
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

Because it's valid just as much as a pro "Very beautiful", for example. It's also a very personal and subjective opinion, isn't it?

ConsiderateTepoztecatl
ConsiderateTepoztecatl
@ConsiderateTepoztecatl1351
5 years ago
@monikav 

No, it isn't. Deepin was made to be beautiful and it is known for being that. So, it is not a personal opinion at all. Calling a DE terrible without any details is completely stupid and a very bad con. If it is indeed terrible for desktops, then you should at least give some reasons why it is so. And the reasons should be relevant too.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago
@monikav 

No, it's not. Deepin is beautiful. It's not a personal opinion at all. You should have at least told the reason why it is terrible for desktops.

Monika
Monika
@monikav
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

It's not my con, and yes, it'd be nice if user explained a bit more. However, it seems they felt strongly enough about it to mention it. You may disagree with it but it's not reason enough to flag it.
"Made to be beautiful" is still not a metric, it's pretty much a matter of taste.
Also, I'd appreciate it if you stopped cloning accounts to upvote Deepin and downvote other distros. This may result in Deepin getting banned as a product altogether.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

Please add details about it.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

User's made-up opinion

Svjatoslavs Krasnikovs
Svjatoslavs Krasnikovs
@SvjatoslavsKrasnikovs
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

Still valid since it's user's subjective opinion. You can always downvote the Pros/Cons you disagree with. Please, stop flagging it.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

Personal opinion...

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

There are lots of DE which are not "the most" customizable DE. So, it seems stupid to call just one DE "not the most customizable DE".

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

Personal opinion

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

The designis not clucky at all. Rather, it's design is one of the most beautiful designs.

Monika
Monika
@monikav
5 years ago

Accidental duplicate.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS, not a desktop environment

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS, not a desktop environment.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is a distro, not a desktop environment.

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

Racism

CulturedArebati
CulturedArebati
@CulturedArebati0350
5 years ago

A desktop like any other - probably flagged by some Linux fanboys

Siamsami Ratul
Siamsami Ratul
@SiamsamiRatul
5 years ago

Sorry, but it doesn't make any sense

Siamsami Ratul
Siamsami Ratul
@SiamsamiRatul
5 years ago

Can you explain what you meant by clunky design?

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
6 years ago

How nice, that someone removed all the current ChromiumOS based distributions since there is no other End-user way to use it...

Endi Sukaj
Endi Sukaj
@endi-sukaj
6 years ago
@ssf 

Maybe this option should be flagged and each of those distros be added separately? Since Chromium OS isn't a user-facing OS perse.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
6 years ago
@endi-sukaj 

All ChromiumOS forks share the same User-Interface/Desktop so there is no need to add each distribution seperately. However since building ChromiumOS as an end-user is a nearly impossible task there should be a list (in the description) to the most used ChromiumOS forks like: ChromeOS, CloudReady, FydeOS etc.

WhiteLilac
WhiteLilac
@WhiteLilac
6 years ago
@ssf 

ChromiumOS technically does not fit the question, so we can't add it. And to follow the format of Slant, we should add things that have a "get it here" link that allows you to get the product that was compared to others under the given question. I think the solution would be to add a selection of the distros - whichever of them seem best.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
6 years ago
@WhiteLilac 

ChromiumOS technically does not fit the question

It does, because we compare Desktops here not the OS" itself.

Distributions have nothing to do with desktops as a distribution is a software bundle published by someone ( OS+User-land+Desktop+Applications). As for me this Question compares desktops, the part of the OS in which the user interacts, so we talk/compare things like web browsing, file management and window management(basically everything after the login)

Endi Sukaj
Endi Sukaj
@endi-sukaj
5 years ago
@ssf 

As for me this Question compares desktops

Well, yes, but Chromium OS is not a DE even though it kinda technically includes a DE. It can be confusing for other users to have this listed here. It's not like you can use the Chromium OS desktop with any distribution (like with KDE for example).

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@endi-sukaj 

As you can see in the Question ist is not about Linux desktop environments - it is about Desktops and Chromium has a desktop. It has its own panel an browser, a file manager and a archie manager.

PS: I started this question so I know for what i was asking - the problem is just that this side does not allow to add a description to a question to add more details.

Endi Sukaj
Endi Sukaj
@endi-sukaj
5 years ago
@ssf 

Wouldn't this qualify "Windows" as an answer too then? Since Windows is an OS that comes with a built-in DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@endi-sukaj 

Yes, it is also included just like: OS/2, OSX, Haiku or PhoenixOS

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

a memory leak is a bug - i don't think the gnome shell or any other desktop has buitin memory leaks...

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

what is modern?

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

duplicate, see very leighteight - also how is gorgeous a pro?

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

any reason why this still flagged?

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Newest Relese has an updater

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

still a duplicate

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

How can one linux fanatic hijack the whole question and flag all non Linux desktops?

Monika
Monika
@monikav
5 years ago
@ssf 

It's a pretty confusing question, to be honest. Looks like it's asking about DEs, though I guess the goal here is the best user experience while using a PC in terms of UI?

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@monikav 

Well, its says Desktops for Desktops-PC's not Desktops for Unix-like systems - The main issue is that it is not possible to add a description to a question which would remove some confusion

Monika
Monika
@monikav
5 years ago

Hey there, thanks for adding this pro! Unfortunately, I've flagged it because there is a duplicate entry "Not the most customizable DE in the world". Hope you don't mind and thanks again! :)

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

DependableRenpet
DependableRenpet
@DependableRenpet8832
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

Damn, and I thought it had an desktop like any other graphical OS - must be totaly wrong...

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
5 years ago

It is an OS. Not a DE.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@SiamSami 

But we are talking here about its interface, that is why it is named ''XXX Desktop'''

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Thats not true the ChromeOS WebStore has an seperate section for apps which is only displayed on ChromeOS. Newer Releses have also the Android PlayStore installed which gives you all android apps. Recently ChromeOS can now run real Linux apps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH_eTAxjq9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2J_1Zr-DDI

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Duplicate

VersatileYatha
VersatileYatha
@VersatileYatha7374
5 years ago

this might be case for garage firms, but a company like Apple or Microsoft has the money to let a whole army of programmers work on one project in full-time

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

duplicate see: Perceived clunkyness and slowness

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

Plasma is running fine for me on an UHD screen - scaling is even better than on gtk 3

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

its a weird pro imported from another question

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago

its activly developed and new features are added with every major update

ExcitedBacchus
ExcitedBacchus
@ExcitedBacchus4549
5 years ago

Just so you know, while Caja does the same with text files, there is a setting in the settings, where you can specify default behavior and the dialog will never show up again. So much for user-friendliness. This actually makes a lot of sense, once you understand, why it is there. This dialog shows up for executable files. And one explanation is SCRIPTS. Because you could either run or edit them. So, this dialog makes it actually MORE user-friendly, not less. Also, why would you use empty panel applets. I never had one. And in the original setup, there is none. Maybe except for the spacer, which is actually there to HELP you with your alignment. Sorry, but I have used Mate for years. So, have a number of other users around me like 2 seniors. Switching from Windows to Linux with Mate, they had like 3 questions. All it took, was less than 5 minutes of explanation. They have been using it ever since without any trouble whatsoever. So, it barely gets more user-friendly and stable than Mate. I completely disagree.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
5 years ago
@ExcitedBacchus4549 

This actually makes a lot of sense, once you understand, why it is there.

that doesnt matter the file type is text-x-svg+xml and it makes no sense for an SVG. A file manager has to manage the files in a comfort way on my computer an it the file type does't support that feature it shouldnt be displayed(eg have a look at other file managers)

Also, why would you use empty panel applets. I never had one.

Its not about empty panels it about the panel customization in general eg: you have a panel full of applets and to move them you have to unlock them and drag them around. However you get no hint where the panel ends and where the applet begins so you often have to use trial and error to find the right spot by right clicking on the panel space. (Also un unconfigured applet eg like the sensors is empty so its about one pixel width, try to find it with right click on a 4k monitor)

For a much better/friendly solution have a look at the xfce panel where you also can modify the panel just like in mate, however at the same time you can go into the panel preferences where you have a list of all applets/plugins, so you can easily rearrange them and modify their configurations

Francisco
Francisco
@Francisco
5 years ago

Hello stoltenberg, I'm sorry, but I had to remove the description you wrote, since it was copy/pasted. This is not recommended (you can read more here if you're curious). But please feel free to add a new description on your own words.

stoltenberg
stoltenberg
@stoltenberg
5 years ago
@Francisco 

Sorry! No offense, but my english skills are limited, so i became a copy cat. I'm going to create something »new« :-)

Francisco
Francisco
@Francisco
5 years ago
@stoltenberg 

Eheh, no worries! We welcome original user-created content very much, so thanks for taking the time to contribute!

stoltenberg
stoltenberg
@stoltenberg
5 years ago

But it is a great community when it comes to kindness and competence :-)

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
6 years ago

I disagree, since it really depends on the task and the hardware eg: it might be not the best server OS but for gaming you won't find anything faster.

pe ka
pe ka
@peka
5 years ago
@ssf 

Graphics, sound, input work faster on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, than on Windows. A lot of games optimized for Windows better, than for Linux.

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
6 years ago

I disagree, because it is not based on UNIX nor was it a clone of UNIX so why should it run *NIX software?

In the same way I could blame Linux, macOS, Windows, Android, iOS or "whatever" for being incompatible with BeOS or Amiga software...

SiamSami
SiamSami
@SiamSami
6 years ago

It is not a DE

stalliondrift
stalliondrift
@stalliondrift
6 years ago

This is only half true: other DEs can't run themes/apps for Cinnamon but Cinnamon can run any theme or apps meant for other DEs which makes it better than the rest of the DEs.

Monika
Monika
@monikav
6 years ago

Duplicate.

Monika
Monika
@monikav
6 years ago

Sorry to flag this and one other pro ("Nice themes and extensions"), but they're both essentially duplicates of the pro "Highly customizable".I moved the details to the remaining pro though. Hope it's okay :)

lostinlodos
lostinlodos
@lostinlodos
6 years ago

One of the benefits of Linux is the ability to modify and pair to your liking. Here I prefer the KDE Plasma desktop on Debian.

Kristaps
6 years ago

Hey there, a very similar question was already asked here, containing a great selection of desktop Operating Systems. Please let me know if that's not what you had in mind, so we can try to find a better answer. :)

Holo Deck
Holo Deck
@ssf
6 years ago
@KristapsFeldmanis 

I dont think its a duplicate because the question you linked is about Operating Systems - However for a desktop user its its more likely to compare Desktop Environments to Windows or OSX instead of Linux(A or B) to Windows.

Kristaps
6 years ago
@ssf 

Are we talking about just the user interface of an OS here? :)

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