When comparing Boosted Dual (2nd Gen.) vs Evolve Carbon GT Street, the Slant community recommends Evolve Carbon GT Street for most people. In the question“What are the best electric skateboards?” Evolve Carbon GT Street is ranked 7th while Boosted Dual (2nd Gen.) is ranked 8th. The most important reason people chose Evolve Carbon GT Street is:
Two motors provide additional power and torque. This contributes to the board’s impressive performance as it allows for very high speeds and great hill climbing ability.
Ranked in these QuestionsQuestion Ranking
Pro High-quality components
The Boosted Dual comes with a loaded Vanguard deck, Caliber trucks, and Orangatang wheels as well as two brushless motors. While the price may seem high, you’re paying for high-quality components that are built to last.
Pro Fast charging
The board can charge from empty to full in as little as 30 minutes. This makes charging time shorter than riding time if you’re using Eco mode.
Pro High quality components
The Boosted Dual comes with a loaded Vanguard deck, Caliber trucks and Orangatang wheels as well as two brush-less motors. While the price may be seen as steep, what you get in comparison to other boards are nice components that are meant to last.
Pro Can handle huge inclines
Riders are able to go up hills at a 20% grade or less with this board. Which is great for those that want to use one in hilly areas.
Pro Wireless remote
The Boosted Board provides extra flexibility by letting users control the board from a wireless controller.
Pro Regenerative braking
When the brakes are used, the battery is recharged with the generated energy. This allows the user to get longer battery life, which can help one travel further or save on charge time.
Pro Beautifully designed
The Boosted Board has a very appealing design with bright colors. It looks very similar to a regular longboard, so it doesn't draw too much unwanted attention.
Pro Can be ridden with a dead battery
When the battery is dead, it can be ridden like a regular skateboard. It is one of the few boards that can be ridden with a dead battery.
Pro Awesome customer support
Boosted has great customer support and help forums. They very accessible and knowledgeable when answering questions about the board, handling updates, and advising potential fixes.
Pro Remote that works well in the dark
The remote is equipped with LED lights, so it can be seen in the dark. It comes with an ergonomic thumbwheel that controls speed as well as direction. The LED display shows how much battery life is left.
Pro Adjustable max speed
The board is equipped with adjustable power limits, ensuring there’s a riding mode that’s appropriate for users of every skill level.
Pro USB Port can easily plug in third party components
Such as an LED light.
Pro Very light
This board only weighs about 15 lb, but can move at speeds up to 20 mph. Boards with similar top speeds usually weigh two to three times as much as the Boosted Board.
Pro Good Customer Service
Customer Service will help you for a broken board.
Pro True flexible longboard design
Most longboarders prefer a flexible design. Flex is subjective, and while you may like it or hate it, Boosted does not let you pick flex for your specific weight or flex preference.
Pro Dual motors for more power
Two motors provide additional power and torque. This contributes to the board’s impressive performance as it allows for very high speeds and great hill climbing ability.
Pro Gorgeous design
The minimalist carbon color scheme and understated branding make this board a showstopper. A clean look that does not look like a hobbyist board, but something professionally manufactured with a touch of class.
Pro Can be ridden with all terrain or street wheels
This board ships with street wheels, but the all-terrain can be purchased separately. If you have both, the wheels can be swapped in and out fairly easily.
Pro Easily readable remote LCD screen
The remote is equipped with an LCD screen that feels much more advanced than your standard interface. This makes for a remote that is easy to glance at for information such as battery life or speed. That way the rider does not need to distract themselves in order to gain important information.
Pro Great stability at higher speeds
While the flex of a board like the Boosted can be great, It is not the best at speeds such as 42km/h, the GT's top speed with 97mm wheels. It can also be seen as a con for some people who just want to ride a board at decent speeds. Mainly the rigidity helps when going fast, as there will be less wobble or flex, which can easily throw the rider off their board, something no one wants at high speeds.
Pro One of the highest-performing boards available
With a top speed of 26 mph and a 15- 31-mile range, this board is among the most powerful on the market. It can handle steep hills (up to a 25 percent grade) with ease.
Pro Solidly built
A 40" long board created out of custom molded carbon fiber and kevlar. This makes for a light deck thanks to the lightweight materials used, but also allows for strength of the deck, making sure it will not snap or break. Fastened underneath the deck is the battery, which has its own custom casing that adds little thickness to the board, though it does add considerable weight (as all batteries do). The batteries casing allows the rider to feel confident that water and other debris will not enter the casing or interfere with the batteries or encased wiring.
Overall, a well thought out design with craftsmanship to match, that exudes toughness and reliability in its construction.
Pro Huge selection of spare parts
Conversion kits, wheels, bearings, belts, chargers, hubcaps, inter tubes, battery casing, all parts for trucks (including bushings), are all parts you can order from their site, covering just about everything other than the motor itself. This is great for anyone who may lose or break any part of the board, as the spare parts are available and easily ordered.
Pro Great range
Longer ride times, up to 31miles/50km on the Street GT. This allows the user to not worry about their distance on a single charge as the range is quite high.
Pro Easily maintained
Evolve offers a multitude of videos on how to change out parts on their boards, making for an easy way to learn how to properly keep it maintained. Coupled with the fact that plenty of spare parts are sold, it should be easy enough for any rider to obtain needed parts and fix their own boards when parts wear out.
Pro Great battery life
The Evolves 42 volt battery is quite large and offers a good amount of power. Enough to get the board to a 31 mile max range and a top speed of 26mph+. This is the current top range (as of Nov. 2016) for electric skateboards, making the Evolve one of the leaders when considering battery life and power.
Pro Fantastic turning radius
The turning radius of Evolve boards is quite good. Just lean into a turn and the board will follow with no issue. Some other high end boards have issue with this, Evolve does not. Definitely a perk for those that need to ride in areas with a lot of turns.
Pro Easily track stats with free app
There are two companion apps on offer, one for Android and one for iOS. This app will allow you to link up to social media, fiends who may also have an Evolve board as well as keep track of rides taken, with GPS. This can be convenient for those that want to keep track of how far they ride and where they have been riding.
Pro Easily use when batteries are dead
The rider can just push kick the board to go when the batteries are dead, as the motor was designed to allow free spinning of the wheels when not in use. This is great for when the rider is out and about and the batteries die or a belt breaks.
Pro Responsive customer service
The customer service is quite good with Evolve, they tend to be pretty responsive and work with the customer when there are issues. Compared to some other popular boards that still have issue in this area, Evolve may be a good choice for those that wish to not have that to deal with.
Pro Quickly charge the board (optional accessory)
A quick charger is available for purchase as an optional accessory that will allow one to charge the board in around 3 hours. This is 1-2 hours faster than the stock charger, which may appeal to those looking to save time charging their device.
Pro Good warranty
The warranty available lasts for six months from the time of purchase, while not the longest warranty, there have been few complaints of the company not fulfilling their requirements. The warranty is listed on their site as covering "all defects in material and workmanship" for that six month period.
Con Battery eats up faster then the app says
I set my mode to ECO which says 7.1 miles- and then you look after 1/2 it's now to 5 miles WTF. You end up going like 3 miles till the battery is 50% and then you have to head back so you don't get stuck carrying it.
Con Not waterproof – only water-resistant
The bearings and bamboo deck can be affected by water damage, although the motor is advertised as water-resistant.
Huge investment to make.
Con Large and heavy
The Boosted Dual (2nd Gen) weighs 13.4 to 14.7 lb (depending on the model), and is the length of a longboard (38 inches). This will feel very large to most skateboard owners.
Con One of the heavier boards on the market
Relative to other boards the Carbon GT Street is quite heavy, coming in at 17 lbs and over 20 lbs with all terrain wheels.
Con Not easy to carry around
The board is quite heavy at 17-21 pounds, making for something that is not going to be the easiest to carry around when it is not being ridden. The large battery built into the device most likely adds to this issue.
Con May be too rigid for some riders
For long-boarders who prefer a flexible board, the rigidity of the board can be an issue. A flexible board is a smoother less bumpy ride at slow speeds but the stiffer board offers more stability riding at higher speeds and carving around sharp turns.
Con Carbon fiber deck has been known to crack
There may be issues if a crack develops in the carbon fiber deck. You can read more here.
Con Slow charging
It can take 4-6 hours to fully charge the board, which may be too long for some users. There is an optional fast charger cutting the charge time to 3 hours, but it does cost extra money at $89, which some people may not want to spend.
Con Resistance while not powered
For those that would like to push kick there will be a slight resistance to moving the board due to the belt drive train. This is something to consider for those that wish to use the board non-powered a lot. This is an inherent problem with all belt drive systems.
Con Too expensive
The price of this board is just too expensive. $2K for a skateboard? For most people it's just not worth the money. There are 2 or 3 boards just as good for much less.
Con Not waterproof
Water can get into the top deck of the board through the grip tape and damage the electronics.
Con Only available as a pre-order
This board can only be pre-ordered in the US, meaning it is not currently available.
Con No swappable batteries
There is no way to swap out the battery pack on this board. This means that there is no way to extend ones ride with a hot swappable extra battery pack. This also means the board will need to be sent in for service when the original batteries in the board will no longer hold a charge, as there are no replacement batteries sold to the consumer.
Con GT remotes possible to control more than 1 board at a time
Some remotes may be tuned to the same frequency, allowing two or more boards to be controlled by one remote. While this will not happen to every board, the potential is there if many boards are around.
Con May be unsafe on wet surfaces
This board goes pretty fast at 31 miles an hour, if you hydroplane or slip on a wet surface, there is a good chance you can get hurt falling off the board at that speed. This is why the manufacturer recommends not riding the board when it is wet outside.This is why the manufacturer recommends not riding the board when it is wet outside.
Con Easy accidental movement of the board
There is no dead-man switch on the provided controller, which could make for potentially dangerous situation. This can lead to accidental runaways when you accidentally bump the throttle on the remote.
Con Optional all terrain wheels are unbalance and wobble at high speed
The optional all terrain wheel is heaver on the nozzle size and unbalanced when spinning at high speeds thus they can feel unstable. Luckily there is an easy fix of using car tire weights to balance the wheels.
Con App feels like an afterthought
The companion app available (for iOS and Android) seems to be more an afterthought, as it does not really connect to the board in any functional way. It does not receive data from the board and it does not allow for changing of settings or upgrading of firmware. Mainly it is an app meant for tracking your usage, such a distances gone or areas ridden (which is recorded through GPS on ones phone, which isn’t always super accurate on speeds and mileage).
There has also been a lot of reports of the Android app crashing constantly, so for Android users, better apps are out there for tracking of the users rides.
Con Cheap electronics used causes endless expensive problems and are unsafe
Case Assessment and Response Unit
Office of Fair Trading
GPO Box 3111
BRISBANE, QLD, 4001
Re: Consumer complaint against Evolve Skateboards
I wish to lodge a complaint against electric-skateboard manufacturer Evolve Skateboards based at Varsity Lakes on the Gold Coast. I have had the worst consumer experience I could have ever imagined possible with Evolve Skateboards, and the matter remains unresolved.
I purchased Evolve’s latest model carbon-fibre electric-skateboard back in early June 2016 at a cost of $2,159. For that price, I never expected the nightmare that followed. There was a six-week waiting period for delivery at the time as these were Evolve’s latest and greatest design of electric-skateboard, and therefore I didn’t receive the board until the last week of July.
It was only a little over a month at the end of August, I was making the first complaint of electrical issues to Evolve, raising some serious safety concerns. The board would either turn off unexpectedly mid-ride, resulting in the board having no brakes to slow-down or stop; or switch to its slowest speed without warning leaving you with less power than expected upon going to cross an intersection leaving you vulnerable to collisions.
To solve the issue, on the 5th September Evolve sent me a replacement “motor-controller” which is the main processing circuit-board between the battery, hand-remote and the power to the motors. This did appear to resolve the issues for a short while, but it wasn’t before long I was experiencing the same issues. In fact, I was making my second complaint to Evolve by mid-January. I was starting to feel frustrated with the board by this time as it was proving itself to be more trouble than it was worth.
Evolve requested I send the board to them as this was the second instance of electrical issues; so I did (at my cost). The motor-controller was then replaced for the second time. I didn’t receive the board back until late February, as Evolve returned it to the address where I lived at the time I initially purchased the board, even though I had explicitly notified them of my new address to avoid such occurring. They were then asking me to pay for the additional return postage costs, even though it was their mistake.
Despite the frustrations with the postage, I was pleased upon receiving the board back as I was hopeful that after it had made the trip to Evolve, that it would be finally repaired and I could start enjoying the thing finally. Unfortunately, this was not the case and it was soon the same old story. The board seemingly had a will of its own; some days it would turn on; others it wouldn’t; or quite often it would wait until you were a few kilometres from home before it completely died; leaving you with no choice but to lug it back home.
I was seriously upset by this stage; the board was still not repaired and it was so unreliable I didn't even feel comfortable riding it further than 500m due to the fear of being stranded. I was tired with speaking to various people within Evolve about it, and wanted someone to take ownership of the problem and make this whole situation right for me. I knew the owner Jeff, was actively involved in the daily operations of the business, so I called and requested to speak to him, only to get the response; “Jeff doesn’t concern himself with customer complaints”. I raised my concern to the person I was speaking too, of the costs involved with continually shipping it interstate for repairs, only to get told that sending it back at my cost was their policy and the only way forward in getting the board repaired was to do just that.
So I did – again. Before I posted it back however, I took great time and effort in monitoring and documenting via video the problems I was experiencing. I was hoping this would assist Evolve as I understood the problems were intermittent; they were not always present making it not the easiest to diagnose.
The collated video, along with an email detailing the issues were sent to Evolve in Queensland, and so was the board a short time later. I specifically told Evolve that the 'symptoms' of malfunction often don't begin appearing after 5 to 15min of riding, and I requested they keep the board for however long it was needed for it to be repaired. Well it wasn’t more than a week later I received a notification the board was on its way back after having its motor-controller replaced (again). Although once again, Evolve had actually sent the board back to my old address in Sydney and I had to wait for it to be returned to Evolve and re-dispatched.
Before I had even physically received the board back, I expressed my concerns to Evolve at having heard that just the motor-controller had been replaced again. As this had been done 3 times now and the problems had just kept arising after a short while. I expressed my concern that it may be a battery or motor irregularity causing the motor-controller to malfunction, hence it needing to be replaced continually.
After pulling it out of the box upon receiving it back, I only got roughly 500 meters down the road before the board started turning itself off again mid-ride. I turned it on again only to get another 10 meters and it was off again. Well I was furious – absolutely livid. I was ready to throw the stupid thing off the rail bridge I was on I was so angry. How could it possibly be returned in this state? Do they really now expect me to ship it straight back to them at my cost? I was even more pissed-off when Evolve told me that they hadn’t bothered viewing the videos I made for them to assist diagnosing, as the file was “too large” (2gb) for them to download.
I knew too well by this time what needed to happen. The issues were well documented to have commenced a little over a month after I first received the board and Evolve had since attempted to repair it on 3 occasions without success. The board had failed to meet any basic and reasonable expectations in quality, reliability, safety and value. It's for these reasons I have never questioned whether I would be eligible for a refund if I deemed it necessary.
Before any demand was made however, the slim possibility had to be ruled out that it wasn't the hand-remote causing any of the issues. Each time the board had been returned to Evolve, they must have had to use their own hand-controller, as the one that came with the board had stayed with me. To prove it was indeed the board that had the malfunction, I purchased from Evolve a brand new hand-remote at a cost of $120. Well after receiving the new hand-remote and experiencing exactly the same issues, it was confirmed that after 3 attempts, Evolve had indeed failed to repair the board to a usable, reliable state, and I simply needed to demand my money back.
I sent the board back with a demand letter requesting to be refunded for the initial cost of the board, and took the opportunity to express my dissatisfaction. I also explicitly told them not to send the board back to me.
The only emails I received back thereafter, were emails that were attempting to suggest the board had been ill-treated in someway. For instance, I had replaced the brand new belts I had recently paid extra for with worn ones before returning, which they were ever so quick to criticise. That there was dust or dirt they thought had got in somewhere that shouldn't. The thing that infuriated me the most however, is their claim the boards carbon-fibre deck itself has been damaged at the rear somehow and it needs replacing at a cost of $550! I was given notice of this in an email several weeks after it had been in their possession and after several emails that made no mention of it; which makes me think if there is such damage, it's of their doing. I can swear on my own life there was no such damage when the board left my end last and I refuse to accept any different. Weirdly enough though, it didn't stop Evolve trying to return the board to me. Yes that's correct; after explicitly instructing them not to send it back; and demanding to be compensated; and after their email saying the carbon-fibre board had itself been damaged and needs replacing; they attempt to send it back! They sent me an email stating that some electrical component had been replaced again and further testing had been done (someone riding my apparently broken board around) with no further reports of any issues. Well I'm sure I can be understood for not being so gracious. I refused to sign the postal consignment and I assume the board has now been returned to Evolve.
It's evident Evolve are deliberately trying any tactic to weasel their way out of compensating me by trying to pin whatever issues the board has on me, framing it in a way that I had somehow misused the board in some way. This is complete nonsense. Submitted with this complaint is the collated email correspondence between myself and Evolve from the first instance of malfunction to the present. This clearly documents this being an ongoing saga of electrical issues from little more than a month after I first received the board. The electrical issues being experienced rendered the board unsafe, unreliable and generally unusable as an electric-skateboard is inherently useless without working electrics. It's astonishing to learn that after the woeful experience I have had with Evolve and their product; after 3 failed attempts to fix the issues; Evolve somehow think they are not responsible or obliged to give my money back. I never imagined I would experience the misery I have had from a product that was intended to be fun and cost over 2 thousand dollars. I experienced nothing but continual electrical issues that made the board unreliable, unsafe and generally unusable from almost the time I first received the board.
I believe I have a strong case and wish to take it as far as it needs to go to receive a refund for the initial cost of the board. I request the services of Consumer Affairs (CA) to assist in this process. I will attach the original invoice along with this letter. The 2GB of video showing the issues as they were experienced is also available upon request but is is too large to attach along with this letter.
I regrettably was unable to attend to this matter sooner due to a hectic end to the year myself, and therefore fully expect this won't be a matter that CA will assess until the new year. I would appreciate to hear back from someone around then. Please don't hesitate to contact me via the details provided if you may have any further questions that may assist in the matter.